Iron Claw Black Orcs - complete collection


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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:02 am

Iron Claw Black Orcs - complete collection

Recently finding the last of the 12 original 1988 Iron Claw Black Orcs sculpted by Bob Olley, I was inspired to paint them all up. Here are the results.
I tried to make the paint job as strange as the miniatures themselves, which are plenty strange.

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If you're interested, here's the advert from Citadel's March 1988 Mail Order Flyer (care of Stuff of Legends):

http://www.solegends.com/ironclaw/ic601blackorcs.htm

I loves me some Bob Olley. If you're keen for more pics, I've got loads at my website: http://www.oldenhammer.com/2014/12/bob-olleys-black-orcs-best-of-iron-claw.html

Incidentally, I have a question for those who know more about these things than I do. In later Citadel catalogues (like the blue 1986-1991 Citadel Miniatures omnibus), Bob Olley never gets any credit for sculpts (he's always anonymized as "Citadel Design Team") -- whereas Jes Goodwin, Kev Adams or the Perry Twins are all cited by name. I just find this strange.

In any case, thanks for looking!
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:30 am

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Well done sir,

A very nice job you've made of those, hitting the nail on the head in my opinion; as for your question - sorry can't help you there.

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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:23 am

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Stunning! I love the contrast between the dark grey-green flesh and the psychedelic colours on the shields and armour.

Do you plan to add in the later Black Orcs (as per 1991 catalogue)?

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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:24 pm

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I would guess that Olley stopped getting credit after he left GW, whereas all of the others you mentioned were still there at the time.
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:38 pm

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matthewjksullivan wrote:Incidentally, I have a question for those who know more about these things than I do. In later Citadel catalogues (like the blue 1986-1991 Citadel Miniatures omnibus), Bob Olley never gets any credit for sculpts (he's always anonymized as "Citadel Design Team") -- whereas Jes Goodwin, Kev Adams or the Perry Twins are all cited by name. I just find this strange.

Until the end of the 2000's only people still working at GW were credited on any new publication, the one who had left were always credited as "Citadel Design Team" like they never existed before... GW had a problem with the turn over of the designers for a long time, like the fact that they were quitting GW was a problem...

It's from the late 2000 that GW did accept to give credit to the old sculptors when they are credited (in articles as they are no more credits in the last catalogues I saw)...
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:23 pm

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Superb painting fella!
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:34 pm

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Thanks all for the feedback - and for the explanation about why Olley wasn't credited. It makes sense from what I know of GW in its decadent period (Sort of reminds me of Stalin changing old photographs to remove comrades who "fell" out of favour - but maybe that is an extreme example).

With respect to the additional Giant Black Orcs... I always had reservations about whether these were Olley's, until I just read this very useful thread:
http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1645

And especially this link establishes their provenance:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat1990winter/TradeCatWinter1990Pg28-02.htm

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Anyway, I'm thinking about trying to get those later Olley Black Orcs. As people like Naagruz have already noted, the sculpting styles are very different... with the later Black Orcs having bald heads, smoother features, broader underlips, fewer teeth. Frankly, I find them less interesting and less weird than the 1988 originals. But I am an insane completionist, so we'll have to see where my mania takes me.
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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:53 pm

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Those 'newer' Black Orcs are actually similar in style to Bob's Blood Bowl Ogres (and, to a lesser degree, Ogryns) than the original 12, but they're classic Olley in terms of features like nostrils, boot tops and gloves in my view :)

I look forward to seeing the expanded collection!

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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:56 pm

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I love your Orcs !!! I'm a big fan of Bob Olley ! ;) Great work !!! :shock:

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Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:19 pm

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Magnificent work. Its color scheme is very cromatic.
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