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Post Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:23 pm

C17 Skeleton question

Hey, right for those Undead collectors i have a couple question regarding the C17 Skeleton range.

First off am i right in saying that the C17 range came both in Slotta and Pre-slotta dependant of when they were released? Rather then the pre-slotta being recast with slottas at a later date.

Second is the picture below the full set of slotta C17's?
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Post Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:27 pm

Re: C17 Skeleton question

I think I understand your question... ;)

The preslotta C17 and the slotta C17 are different sculpts. Does that answer your question?
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Re: C17 Skeleton question

Citadel Collector wrote:I think I understand your question... ;)

The preslotta C17 and the slotta C17 are different sculpts. Does that answer your question?


Um no heh, first i wanted to know if the C17 range started off as preslotta and as the range got expanded ended up with the last releases being Slotta. And second the picture are they the full C17 Slotta range?
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Post Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:40 pm

Re: C17 Skeleton question

By which you mean:

Were the later tabbed C17s different sculpts to the original preslotta sculpts or were they recasts? (I think CC answered that for you)

Does that picture show the entire range- ie. every model ever produced in the series? (No idea)
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Post Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:13 pm

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They were all slotta only.
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Re: C17 Skeleton question

Have a good look through the flyers on this page:

http://www.solegends.com/citfly/citfly87/index.htm

You'll see quite a few C17s, but they become "UND2" towards the end. Difficult to say how many of them were technically C17 to start with. There is at least one C17 however that seems to have been dropped from subsequent catalogue entries (the "swordsman" in your original pic).
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Post Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:09 pm

Re: C17 Skeleton question

Citadel Collector wrote:Have a good look through the flyers on this page:

http://www.solegends.com/citfly/citfly87/index.htm

You'll see quite a few C17s, but they become "UND2" towards the end. Difficult to say how many of them were technically C17 to start with. There is at least one C17 however that seems to have been dropped from subsequent catalogue entries (the "swordsman" in your original pic).


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Post Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:38 am

Re: C17 Skeleton question

Their were 15 different C17 Pre-slottas ... They were originally the Fantasy Tribe Skeletons (1982) but became C17 skeletons. However then they started making multiple variants of the same figure (for about half of them) with head swaps .... so there were a lot more different individuals.

The guys you have there were all new individual sculpts and were done with tabs.
No sculpts from the original fantasy tribe pre slotta C17s made the cut and ended up in the new range.

Which is exactly what Steve said ... only using more words. :D


... and no, that's not all of them. Aly Morrison was churning them out. There were over 50 (maybe 70? individual sculpts) before you start into the cavalry.
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Harry wrote:Their were 15 different C17 Pre-slottas ... They were originally the Fantasy Tribe Skeletons (1982) but became C17 skeletons. However then they started making multiple variants of the same figure (for about half of them) with head swaps .... so there were a lot more different individuals.


(Puts pedantic collector's hat on) No - the Fantasy Tribe Skeletons were different sculpts to the C17 preslottas. Also there were a lot more than 15 C17 preslottas:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat1985agma ... t10-02.htm
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Harry wrote:Their were 15 different C17 Pre-slottas ... They were originally the Fantasy Tribe Skeletons (1982) but became C17 skeletons. However then they started making multiple variants of the same figure (for about half of them) with head swaps .... so there were a lot more different individuals.


OK, having read that again I think I see what you mean but let me expand and clarify (sometimes more words are better ;) )

So at the beginning of the 1980s Citadel had various Fantasy Tribes ranges - fighters, orcs, skeletons etc with the head swaps. Around the time of the first compendium all their ranges were reclassified as "C Series" - fighters became C01 and skeletons became C17. But a little later these "Fantasy Tribes skeletons C17s" were replaced by the "non-Fantasy Tribes non-head swaps preslotta C17":

http://www.solegends.com/citcat1985agma ... t10-02.htm

Then a little while later Citadel dropped the preslotta in favour of the slotta, and the "slotta C17" were scuplted which were different sculpts to the preslotta C17.

Are we there yet? ;)
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