Oldhammer fanzine issue 1


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Post Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:13 pm

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Citadel Collector wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:OK. I've had a fair few folk get interested in doing some stuff, which is great!

Some people asked for a bit more steer, so I have put together a brief set of guidelines for contributions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sp2mpw25p1k2 ... s.pdf?dl=0


It's a great shame about the "no miniatures photography" - would that definitely lead to legals issues Zhu? :(


It's a fair question CC, and the answer is "probably not". The legal grey area I want to steer away from is where some element of a miniatures design may be considered a trademark by a trademark owner is reproduced and then subsequently used as a lever against the publication. I don't want to get into a situation where I'm trying to second-guess what might be considered a trademark, or incidental use, or derivative work or a parody - that way madness lays!
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Post Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:25 pm

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I completely see where you're coming from. It's just a shame. Eye-candy - particularly vintage painted eye-candy - is always a joy to see in publications.

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Post Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:44 pm

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Yeah, a full colour hardback tome of glossy miniatures photography a la "Heroes for Wargames" would be a fantastic project, but that's kind of a different beast to a retro gaming zine, and comes with it's own aesthetic, materiality, production, legal and ahem cost issues. I'm sure we'll find lots of other ways to blow peoples minds while keeping true to the old school spirit.
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Post Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:53 pm

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Very nice. I will get cracking on some ideas I have had kicking around.
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:51 pm

Re: Oldhammer fanzine issue 1

Zhu Bajie wrote:
Citadel Collector wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:OK. I've had a fair few folk get interested in doing some stuff, which is great!

Some people asked for a bit more steer, so I have put together a brief set of guidelines for contributions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sp2mpw25p1k2 ... s.pdf?dl=0


It's a great shame about the "no miniatures photography" - would that definitely lead to legals issues Zhu? :(


It's a fair question CC, and the answer is "probably not". The legal grey area I want to steer away from is where some element of a miniatures design may be considered a trademark by a trademark owner is reproduced and then subsequently used as a lever against the publication. I don't want to get into a situation where I'm trying to second-guess what might be considered a trademark, or incidental use, or derivative work or a parody - that way madness lays!

Trademarks should be no worry. Most places have very short renewal periods on trademarks and you're required to keep using them in trade.

Copyright would be more of a concern.

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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:40 pm

Re: Oldhammer fanzine issue 1

ardyer wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:
Citadel Collector wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:OK. I've had a fair few folk get interested in doing some stuff, which is great!

Some people asked for a bit more steer, so I have put together a brief set of guidelines for contributions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sp2mpw25p1k2 ... s.pdf?dl=0


It's a great shame about the "no miniatures photography" - would that definitely lead to legals issues Zhu? :(


It's a fair question CC, and the answer is "probably not". The legal grey area I want to steer away from is where some element of a miniatures design may be considered a trademark by a trademark owner is reproduced and then subsequently used as a lever against the publication. I don't want to get into a situation where I'm trying to second-guess what might be considered a trademark, or incidental use, or derivative work or a parody - that way madness lays!

Trademarks should be no worry. Most places have very short renewal periods on trademarks and you're required to keep using them in trade.

Copyright would be more of a concern.


Ah, but people can claim unregistered trademarks for all sorts of things, and not infringing other peoples copyright is kind of a given. Basically if you want to write a scenario for Conan™ the Barbarian, don't. Write one for Sigurd the Barbarian instead. On the visual side, don't reproduce someone elses character design or markings, make up your own cool stuff - everyone is happy!

airbornegrove26 wrote:Very nice. I will get cracking on some ideas I have had kicking around.


Ah great, I'm really looking forward to seeing your stuff!
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:49 pm

Re: Oldhammer fanzine issue 1

Zhu Bajie wrote:
ardyer wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:
Citadel Collector wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:OK. I've had a fair few folk get interested in doing some stuff, which is great!

Some people asked for a bit more steer, so I have put together a brief set of guidelines for contributions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sp2mpw25p1k2 ... s.pdf?dl=0


It's a great shame about the "no miniatures photography" - would that definitely lead to legals issues Zhu? :(


It's a fair question CC, and the answer is "probably not". The legal grey area I want to steer away from is where some element of a miniatures design may be considered a trademark by a trademark owner is reproduced and then subsequently used as a lever against the publication. I don't want to get into a situation where I'm trying to second-guess what might be considered a trademark, or incidental use, or derivative work or a parody - that way madness lays!

Trademarks should be no worry. Most places have very short renewal periods on trademarks and you're required to keep using them in trade.

Copyright would be more of a concern.


Ah, but people can claim unregistered trademarks for all sorts of things, and not infringing other peoples copyright is kind of a given. Basically if you want to write a scenario for Conan[TRADE MARK SIGN] the Barbarian, don't. Write one for Sigurd the Barbarian instead. On the visual side, don't reproduce someone elses character design or markings, make up your own cool stuff - everyone is happy!

airbornegrove26 wrote:Very nice. I will get cracking on some ideas I have had kicking around.


Ah great, I'm really looking forward to seeing your stuff!

un-registered trademarks are usually limited to injunctive relief. So the worst they can usually do is "stop doing that!" Plus, they still have to prove they have a trademark in it, even if it's un-registered. So if they're not using it in trade, they get no mark.

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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:12 pm

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ardyer wrote:un-registered trademarks are usually limited to injunctive relief. So the worst they can usually do is "stop doing that!" .


Well yes. Somebody's lawyer saying "stop doing that!" would be a right PITA, and some people have previous on being trademark bullies, so let's avoid all that nonsense from the get-go. Easily done, no real loss to anyone, and more creative opportunities.

Anyway, are you up for contributing something?
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:13 pm

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Zhu Bajie wrote:
ardyer wrote:un-registered trademarks are usually limited to injunctive relief. So the worst they can usually do is "stop doing that!" .


Well yes. Somebody's lawyer saying "stop doing that!" would be a right PITA, and some people have previous on being trademark bullies, so let's avoid all that nonsense from the get-go. Easily done, no real loss to anyone, and more creative opportunities.

Anyway, are you up for contributing something?

Unless you want something in ip law right now, I've got a 4 month old at home that sucks up all my time :lol:

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Post Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:20 pm

Re: Oldhammer fanzine issue 1

ardyer wrote:
Zhu Bajie wrote:
ardyer wrote:un-registered trademarks are usually limited to injunctive relief. So the worst they can usually do is "stop doing that!" .


Well yes. Somebody's lawyer saying "stop doing that!" would be a right PITA, and some people have previous on being trademark bullies, so let's avoid all that nonsense from the get-go. Easily done, no real loss to anyone, and more creative opportunities.

Anyway, are you up for contributing something?

Unless you want something in ip law right now, I've got a 4 month old at home that sucks up all my time :lol:


OK, I'll put you down for a scenario involving a Cleric of Law and an insanely-cute temporal warping chaos monster ;-)
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