Helsreach 2018


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Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:30 am

Helsreach 2018

Helsreach was so fun in 2017, so its on again in 2018.

This time around it will be me and hopefully Mattblackgod putting out the terrain. I should imagine I can get the desert cloth again of Scalene as we sort of have joint ownership! (By the way Scalene will be running a cool sounding AdMech game:http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12151)

In the last installment, Kevin made the most money, while Benamon took over control of the mayoral residence and installed a new mayor.

The vehicle rules sort of worked, in that we had plenty of vehicles on the table and the movement was fine. However, they proved to be flawed. The main issue was that everyone rocked up with an APC! This time round there will be stricter rules for vehicles. I plant to build and cast a set of parts to go with some rules, so there will be stuff available to use, or bring your own built using the rules outlines.

Suggestions and commentry would be greatly appreciated! I will thrash out some new vehicle rules and post them up here.
Other modifications will be around the disparity between a starting necromunda gangs and a starting list from Shadow War. The shadow war ones are alot tougher! Imagine 8 gangers vs 6 plague marines. It will be interesting to see what the new Necromunda rules will be like!





Last year people brought a 1000 point gang, but this year I think everyone can take upgrades!

Each gang is 1000 points. You can choose from ANY necromunda publication, (I guess including the new one, although the fancy new weapons will not be supported.) This includes Inquisimunda, White Dwarves, Yaktribe pages, Fanatic Mag etc etc.

Each gang can take vehicles as well for free, still have to work out exactly what these will be like, but the free vehicles will probably have movement about 20", Toughness 5 and be open. To make them better, take upgrades!

Shadow Wars gangs are allowed but you cant take any upgrades. Shadow Wars teams are pretty powerful compared to a basic 1000 point gang.

UPGRADES each gang can take 20 of these. I was thinking of limiting these to 3 per model, but in the end, do anything you want just not POWER GAMING!!!!

Stat increase: +1 to any stat. May not go above the human maximum which is below, although some discussion on this might be good.
M WS BS S T W I A Ld
10 7 7 7 7 6 8 6 10

Skill: Choose any skill from your gangs skill tables.

Armour: Each armour upgrade increases the armour save by one "pip". Minimum is obviously 2+ ;)

Cash: The gang gets +10 creds.

Experience: Experience may be bought for the gang at 5 creds per experience point.

Cheat: If you want to do something that is against the rules, or just a bit overpowered or whatever then pay an "upgrade point" out of your 20 and just do it. Rule of cool takes precedent. You can if you want also add a DISADVANTAGE as a way of making your character or gang more fun, yes not over-powered.

Vehicle Upgrades are in the vehicle section. Vehicle Upgrades are "paid" of of your 20 "upgrade points"



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Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:46 am

Re: Helsreach 2018

Count me in. I'll sort out some sort of trade point for the bush meats with prizes and stuff.
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Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:23 pm

Re: Helsreach 2018

Who me?? :lol: I do plan to be there....even if I have to hire a van to haul it all there.
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Post Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:13 pm

Re: Helsreach 2018

One idea is to limit the vehicles to trucks with a flatbed to take the gang. Maybe limit the weapon on it to a machine gun/heavy stubbed or similar.
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 am

Re: Helsreach 2018

Yes precisely. Player have to bring less armored vehicles! I think mounting weapons is pretty irrelevant anyway, surly your heavy gets the heavy weapon?

I think some kind of simplistic build rules might work. A basic vehicle that can take upgrades, or maybe even trade off upgrades for downsides?

One suggestion to limit vehicles was to track their fuel consumption: APCs take LOADS of fuel, open lightweight trucks use less fuel. This might be a bit fiddly, but it could be fun to link the in game fuel drum commodity to the vehicles. Ie each turn you rive it uses up a fuel token. You can refuel by picking up or buying fuel drums.


Vehicles really need to be able to be damaged by S3 weaponry or they become what they were in 2017, ie indestructable bunkers!
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Post Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:40 am

Re: Helsreach 2018

Fuel tracking is a good idea and fuel hunting would keep players moving around the board. Maybe rules for stealing fuel from each other could be added? That would persuade players to raid each otber.

I agree about the heavy weapons.
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Post Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:00 am

Re: Helsreach 2018

OK, this is the start of the "rules", I will post them on the opening post when they are hammered out.

Last year people brought a 1000 point gang, but this year I think everyone can take upgrades!

So each gang is 1000 points. You can choose from ANY necromunda publication, (I guess including the new one, although the fancy new weapons will not be supported.) This includes Inquisimunda, White Dwarves, Yaktribe pages, Fanatic Mag etc etc.

Each gang can take vehicles as well for free, still have to work out exactly what these will be like, but the free vehicles will probably have movement about 20", Toughness 5 and be open. To make them better, take upgrades!

Shadow Wars gangs are allowed but you cant take any upgrades.

UPGRADES each gang can take 20 of these. I was thinking of limiting these to 3 per model, but in the end, do anything you want just not POWER GAMING!!!!

Stat increase: +1 to any stat. May not go above the human maximum which is below, although some discuassion on this might be good.
M WS BS S T W I A Ld
10 7 7 7 7 6 8 6 10

Skill: Choose any skill from your gangs skill tables.

Armour: Each armour upgrade increases the armour save by one "pip". Minimum is obviously 2+ ;)

Cash: The gang gets +10 creds.

Experience: Experience may be bought for the gang at 5 creds per experience point.

Vehicle Upgrades are in the vehicle section.


EDIT: Im just posting this to the opening post.
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:50 pm

Re: Helsreach 2018

Somthing else I remembered as well is you can spend 5 credits to gain 1 experience for any ganger. I will compile these rules onto the first post when they are discussed and agreed one, so any comments would be appreciated.


Here is the Inquisimunda resources page for reference:

http://empireofghosts.blogspot.co.uk/p/inquisimunda-resources.html

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Post Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:28 pm

Re: Helsreach 2018

so, just to be clear...

I create 1000 p gang and I'm allowed to add 20 free upgrades like skills, stats increase, mutations... (distributed freely among the members)

am I right?
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Post Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:01 pm

Re: Helsreach 2018

Yes exactly. I just added that you can trade an Upgrade for 10 creds too. You can also spend them on vehicle upgrades.

Here are the vehicle rules:




VEHICLES

Vehicles are free to include in your gang. Players may take as many as they like.
Each vehicle must be driven by a member of your gang, although they driver may change or get out.
You can mount weapons on them as you choose, but the weapon costs come out of your gang creds.

Movement Toughness Capacity Damage Manouverability

Speeder Bike 100, 5, 2, 5, 270
Bike 36, 5, 2, 5, 270
Ground Car 24, 5, 5, 10, 180
Trailer 0, 5, 4, 10, 0
Ornithopter 36, 4, 4, 10, 270
Mining Walker 12, 6, 12, 15, 180


UPGRADES
Upgrades are taken out of your allowance of 20 upgrades for the gang.

Armoured Vehicle. Each increase adds +1 T to your vehicle to a max of 8.

Enclosed Crew space: This is a single space for one crew member, more spaces may be added. A model in an enclosed crew space may not be targeted by shooting or combat, but may not attack or shoot. If the model opens the hatch to fire out or attack out then they are visible and may be shot with Overwatch or Attacked in combat. The enclosed crew space can be Closed or Open. Models in a closed compartment are not visible and may not be shot at or attacked in combat, but may themselves not shoot or attack. Models in an open compartment are visible and may be shot at or attacked and may do so themselves.

Assault vehicle: Models disembarking may make a charge move.

Faster! Each of these upgrades makes the vehicle go 5" further.

Reliable: The vehicle gets +1 Damage. More may be added.

Extra Seat. Add +1 Capacity for each extra seat.

Ram: Making a ram with your ram adds another D6 damage to the target vehicle. If the vehicle susessfully hits a pedestrian then the character is wounded on a 3+ rather than a 6.



MOVEMENT
Vehicles may only increase their speed by half of their Movement each turn. SO vehicles go from 0 to full speed in 2 turns.

MANEUVERABILITY
Maneuverability shows how many degrees a vehicle may spin each turn.
A vehicle may spin any amount of degrees at any point in its movement.
Vehicles may make multiple spins each turn as long as the total is not more than it's Manouverability.
This rule is to make moving simple, so just estimate, usually in 45, 90 or 180 degree spins.

SPECIAL DAMAGE
If a vehicle takes more than 3 damage in a single turn it may take Special Damage.
Roll a D6,

1,2,3 Minor Mishap
4,5,6 Major Damage

Minor Mishap
1. Spins D6 x D6 degrees
2. Grinds to a halt and may not move next turn.
3. Driver spills thier beverage, so is pinned
4. Lurches forward D6 inches
5. Random Passenger(or diver) falls off and is pinned.
6. Chips the paint work.

Major Damage
1. Spins D6 x D6 x D6 degrees
2. Immobilised
3. Everyone on board is pinned
4. Lurches 3D6" 1-2: 45 degrees left 3-4: straight forward 5-6: 45 degrees right
5. Severe crash. Everyone on board must pass an Initiative test or take a wound. Armour saves apply as normal.
6. Destroyed. D6" diameter explosion, at S2+D3

SHOOTING AT MODELS ON VEHICLES
Models in a vehicle or mounted on one are in hard cover at all times.
You need actual line of sight to be able to hit them.
Models in an enclosed crew space are not visible and may not be targeted.

VEHICLE and COMBAT
Roll to attack vehicles as normal.
Vehicles count as WS 1.
Models mounted on a vehicle may attack models the vehicle is in base contact with. Equally, any model touching the vehicle may attack it and any model mounted on board. No model involved is locked in combat and may break away without penalty. Models attacking from a vehicle or attacking mounted models dont get charge bonuses of any kind.
Models in an enclosed crew space are not visible and may not be attacked.
Models may not charge off or onto a vehicle unless it has the assault vehicle upgrade. Models charging into an assault vehicle can attack models in base to base contact as if the vehicle was a piece of terrain.

BOARDING OR DISEMBARKING
To get on or off a moving vehicle, take an Initiative test.
If failed, the figure is placed off the vehicle at a random point and is pinned.
Models may not charge off or onto a vehicle unless it has the assault vehicle upgrade.

RAMMING OTHER VEHICLES
Declare your Ram at the start of the turn.
The target driver may attempt to dodge the ram.
To dodge a ram attempt roll equal or under the driver's Initiative.
Target vehicle will take D6 Damage, or 2D6 is the vehicle has a ram.
The Rammer takes 1 Damage.

RUNNING OVER PEDESTRIANS
Declare your Ram at the start of the turn.
Characters may attempt a dodge.
To dodge a run-over attempt roll equal or under Initiative.
If they fail to dodge roll a dice. On the roll of a 6 the model takes 1 wound, although they may take their armour roll.
If roll 1-5 then they are pinned.
If the vehicle doing the running over has a ram then they wound on a 4+ rather than a 6.

DESTROYED VEHICLES
Uninsured vehicles are surprisingly rare in Helsreach. A vehicle that is destroyed can be respawned at the vehicle dealers in Helsreach market, or at the Outlaw Trading post as appropriate.
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