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Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:57 am
by spirit_light_speed
I'm about to dive in and paint up a Rogue Trader Land Raider... I'm in love with the look of the original, from the Rogue Trader rule book (p. 110/111). Anybody know how they got that rust effect on the treads? I'm looking to go as authentic as possible, using the old citadel paints and inks, circa. 1987 (I know there's Ryza Rust these days and so on... but I'm going for the nostalgia, call me crazy). Was there a specific recipe back then to get that look? Ink washes over metallics? Anybody out there have the know how? I would love to hear from you!!

Re: Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:46 pm
by Tubehead
spirit_light_speed wrote:I'm going for the nostalgia, call me crazy).


Here we are, here's the Land Raider in question:
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This is the prototype Land Raider c. 1986/7. As I recall this photo was in the rulebook long before the actual Land Raider kit was ready to hit the shelves.
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I can see why you've asked about this; the rust effect is comparatively very different from what's available these days. My uneducated guess is that it's a custom made formula and not a purpose-made weathering product. I base that only on the fact that the guns of the troopers in the foreground seem to echo the same reddish-orange overtones of the rust.
Now I'm curious too! :)

Re: Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:50 pm
by OldManPaints
I never really applied rust to my Warhammer miniatures. But I did also do a lot of 1:72 scale War models...and to put rust on vehicles, I used to use Humbrol paint mixed with talcum powder and then applied with a cocktail stick.

Re: Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:55 am
by Tubehead
OldManPaints wrote:to put rust on vehicles, I used to use Humbrol paint mixed with talcum powder and then applied with a cocktail stick.


Was that back in the '80's? I can see talcum powder giving the rust a nice knobbly texture. :)

Re: Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:54 am
by OldManPaints
Yeah, it was the 80s. Talk is obviously fine, but at that scale mixed in with the paint it does give the desired effect..you might have to move it around a bit with a cocktail stick to get it into position.

Re: Painting rust, Rogue Trader style?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:42 pm
by Tubehead
OldManPaints wrote:at that scale mixed in with the paint it does give the desired effect...

Yes, I could totally see that. That's a good idea. We have all these specially made products we can call upon now, it's interesting to know more about techniques that predate them. I honestly think we could and perhaps should make a thread about resurrecting the 'vintage' approach to model building.
If they have 'retro sound' rock bands now that use vintage equipment, analogue effects, and outdated music production techniques to achieve a vintage-feel sound, then surely fans of vintage hobby culture can re-explore pleasingly old terrain in a similar vein.
spirit_light_speed; you began this by attempting to backengineer a certain technique. Personally I would encourage you to run with this and open a retro-approach modelling forum under Painting and Modelling where our friends like OldManPaints here can contribute more 'vintage' modelling tricks and techniques we can all add to our repertoire.
You never know, we might even save some money on hobby supplies in the long run, if we know how to fabricate our own (while looking fashionably 'retro' at the same time). :)