5th ed. Bretonnians


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Post Sat May 23, 2020 11:15 pm

5th ed. Bretonnians

I started these prior to the Age of Nurgle, probably mostly painted in 2018/19. But I hope to get back to them soon! Weighing in at 1200 points if I load up on unit champions for the infantry, this is not a bad little force. I was (and still am) a Joan of Arc junkie so theming my army around Repanse de Lyonesse was not really optional. Note: it was only the 5th edition Brets that got me into fantasy at all. Bretonnians were so neglected in 4th that, as a 40k only player, I thought they were a brand new race in 1996!

The theme is, Repanse leads force of Questing Knights knights who are just passing through her land, and Knights of the Realm who are doing their annual 40 days' service. She's using them to do armed patrols around the border of Lyonesse, checking in on her ducal garrisons. So the infantry will be painted in variations on her blue/red/gold colors. I'll also paint a unit of 2nd and 3rd son errant knights in her colors who are stuck doing garrison duty as a profession, for lack of their own land. So the army will be her armed cavalry patrol and the garrison of the fort she's momentarily checking in on.

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I will expand it in $50 chunks using my 1997 price guide. Like in Tale of Four Gamers. It took about 50 dollars to buy 25 pounds worth of Citadel minis back then.

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Post Thu May 28, 2020 6:22 pm

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The army grows!

I added 6 errant knights. At this point the army is precisely 1,194 points (up from 1,002!) before adding such optional things as light armor for the bowmen, promoting leader figures to unit champions/knightly heroes, magic standards, and magic items for said "promoted" models. I've got 3 small cavalry units for outmaneuvering the enemy, a line of spearmen for simple jobs like guarding a deployment zone or stoppering up a gap between scenery items, and big enough archer unit. Next up I will probably expand the infantry. I will want a good square of spearmen led by a hero so they can really fight, and at some point I have to more than double the number of bowmen in the army most likely. As Phillpe de Commynes said, "Archers are the most necessary thing in the world for an army. But they must be counted in the thousands, for in small numbers they are useless."

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Sometime in the month of June, I will post another $50 worth of models as chosen from late 1990's mail-order price guides.

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Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:13 pm

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Well we're all caught up with this army's June installment. I've expanded the questing knights to a nice big wedge of 10 models. The great dynamically posed metal horseheads for this unit, frankly, is why they're my favorite old Bretonnian knights, so having lots of them was a no-brainer. This also gives my general a big scary unit of elites to lead into battle.

I've increased the spearmen to a block of 20 led by a knightly hero on foot. I imagine him as the castellan of the fort Repanse is checking in on. All the infantry and the errant knights are under his personal command for the defense, and day to day operations, of the castle.

I also added 5 foot squires. The army was feeling ungainly so some skirmishers should help with that.

The astute will notice I "spent" around $75 instead of $50. I've decided to give myself an extra $50, spread across the final two months of army growth. I did this because in the original Tale of Four Gamers, they frequently took advantage of big sales and the like. I've now got well over 1500 points, and will expand the army to 2,000 next month. But how?

At this point the army is very vulnerable to light cavalry. Students of Archer Jones will know, there are only two ways of dealing with light cavalry. You can stalemate them with your own light cavalry, or destroy them with light infantry. I'm also somewhat vulnerable to heavy infantry. Light infantry is also an effective way of dealing with that particular threat. So, no matter what else I add next month, it's going to have to include at least some number of additional light infantry: I could expand the foot squire unit, or, I could start a new unit of longbowmen, or both. I could also add light cavalry of my own: mounted squires with bows! I'm also tempted to expand the Knights of the Realm to a full 10 models. We shall see.

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Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:55 am

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Tauntaun Scout wrote:... in the original Tale of Four Gamers, they frequently took advantage of big sales ...


those were the days. i think it's been two decades since the last of those in the uk.
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Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:46 am

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That's a superb looking army - I've always loved the Bretonnians!
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Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:31 am

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Nice, crisp, clean . . . very lovely looking! :)

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Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:52 am

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symphonicpoet wrote:Nice, crisp, clean . . . very lovely looking! :)


The trick is drawing the lines on first with pencil or pen before painting!

I am on the fence about what to add next though it will probably be lots more infantry. The army's meant to defend a castle, or walled village, after all. Besides I think medieval armies looks best with around 3 footmen to every mounted man. This will mean 15 more archers (if I can find the metal trooper poses I want!) and 10 halbrediers or perhaps convrted men at arms with hand weapons.
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Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 pm

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Glorious glorious colour! How did you do the shading on the yellow?

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Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:24 pm

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Caradepato wrote:Glorious glorious colour! How did you do the shading on the yellow?


For this army, I have started using Iyaden Yellow contrast paint as a shading wash over the old 1990's Sunburst Yellow. Sometimes, I use just the contrast paint but I use pure white primer under it instead of off-white or grey. For Bretonians and such anyways.

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Post Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:39 pm

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So normally I would hold off describing exactly what I add till it's painted, but I think announcing it ahead of time will help ensure I get my painting done this month! I always loved the Bretonnian Hunting Party boxed army. So I am simply going to collect the rest of that stuff, plus a few odd models to round up the army. I've already got 5 foot squires and more than enough errant knights. So I shall paint a champion to lead the knights of the realm, paint 5 mounted squires to give a little shooting to the mounted patrol, and round the foot squires w/longbows up to a unit of 10, more than clinching the old boxed army. With my few remaining dollars I'll add a damsel on foot to help lead the defense of the castle.

This will make a nice, big, ducal army in blue, red and gold for Repanse to lead, much like the old blue & silver ducal army of the studio. Eventually I'll bulk the knights of the realm up to 10 then 15, and I'll make up another noble or two and paint them each a smaller retinue of commoners in their liveries.
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