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Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:35 pm
by Stormbringer
Greetings,

A brief introduction:

I got into war-gaming only very recently because I was attracted to the idea of playing skirmishes between only a handful of models per side; I love both fantasy and tabletop combat, but massive armies are not really my cup of tea.

I started out in 2012 with Song of Blades & Heroes from Ganesha Games and I also dabbled a bit with The Lord of the Rings: The Strategy Battle Game, but found both systems a little unsatisfactory in different ways.

I took an interest in 'Oldhammer' because, while searching for something more suitable to my wants, I stumbled upon Zhu Baije's 'Oldhammer Contract' blog-post of some years back. I found it inspiring because of the freedom it proposed -- freedom to use whatever miniatures you wish and play the game how you wish.

I have since bought 1st, 2nd and 3rd Editions of Warhammer Fantasy Battle and found them to be a magnificent set of rules and marvellously flexible.

My personal definition of 'Oldhammer' is not collecting lead miniatures from the 1980s to try and relive Games Workshop as it was three decades ago, but rather playing the old editions of Warhammer for their excellent rule design, but with an approach of total freedom and creativity -- playing the battles I want to play with the miniatures of my choosing, not confined to either the Warhammer World, Citadel Miniatures or tournament-based army restrictions.

I am very much looking forward to participating in this community.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:58 pm
by Asslessman
Well, I'd say you got it right all the way !

Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with. We're the easy bunch really,... as long as we have or deal of pictures.... :D

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:59 pm
by Erny
Hello,

I'm going to assume your a Moorcock fan. You'll fit in well here.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:46 pm
by Stormbringer
I have not actually read any of Moorcock's books yet, believe it or not!

I borrowed the name from a 2003 album, 'The Nordic Stormbringer', by German black metal band Unlight (which I haven't even listened to), just because it sounded cool to me at the time.

I am, however, a huge fan of J.R.R. Tolkien and Robert E. Howard.

I'm hesitant about Moorcock because I know he's highly critical of Tolkien and that makes me uncomfortable.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:14 pm
by Erny
I'm a big Tolkien fan myself but I have no problem agreeing with much that Moorcock has to say about Epic Pooh. To dismiss Tolkien as only an extension of the establishment that rejects modernism is to miss the woods for the trees. He rightly describes what it is but wrongly suggests that it is worthless. I think Moorcock has plenty to offer a lover of Tolkien and probably has more in common with 80's WH than JRRT.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:07 pm
by Stormbringer
Yes, I get the strong impression that the Warhammer World was forged from three primary literary elements -- Tolkien, Moorcock and Howard, with Moorcock being the main influence behind 'Chaos'. Is that fair?

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:21 pm
by Erny
Chaos and the Old world I think are more Moorcock than Tolkien or Howard though obviously elves, orcs and dwarves came from somewhere as did the big bad barbarians. The slight postmodern feel of teh place is also more Moorcock though I reckon you could get a more educated set of thoughts on this from Zhu than myself.

There is a smattering of Lovecraft in WH too.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:27 pm
by Stormbringer
Oh, I do enjoy Lovecraft as well.

I'll probably give Moorcock's work a try someday, if only to better culture myself, though I fear I'm much too conservative/idealist for him and won't ever be able to enjoy his stories in the same way I can slip happily into Tolkien's or Howard's imaginary worlds.

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:43 pm
by Asslessman
Well you can begin with Corum and you should feel pretty comfortable then...

Re: Greetings from Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:02 pm
by Stormbringer
While we're on the subject of Moorcock and 'Epic Pooh', I'll just share this counter-criticism of Moorcock's infamous essay, which I'd like to say I wholeheartedly agree with.